this american life switched at birth transcript

And I'm sorry for her. Having the two of them so near each other was a little awkward. The other problem for Marti was how to approach the McDonalds, her biological parents. I mean, I'd say, gee, guess what, Bob, I don't think your sister is yours. And is the reason because Marti brought something important to your family? And my own bed, too, everything. Back in 1994-- this is back in the days when people still delivered big news to each other by mail-- two women who barely knew each other, Martha Miller and Susan McDonald, got a letter from Martha's mom. Why the big concern about disgracing the doctor over, you know, having the wrong baby? This was a house with a lot of rules. You know, when she finally heard from Mrs. Miller, the mother she'd grown up with, not only did she get the letter, but Mrs. Miller had just been to the fiftieth anniversary party of the McDonald's, Marty's biological parents. It got so bad, Kay had to go on medication for high blood pressure. She denied, she says, oh, no, no, that's not true. I don't know why they didn't notice that. It was a little surreal to hear her talk about it in this way, laughing like that, especially after hearing McDonald's side of things. Is my brother going to care to even see me anymore? We love you, Martha Jane, as dearly as our other six children. It's really nice to meet you. And what was what was your your room like you in your own room to our room. And I wanted to be a cheerleader, you know, I didn't get picked. But it was hard, Marti says, to be on the receiving end of this sudden adamant truth-telling. Here she is. by. And my mother, nothing was going to be different between us. First, she wanted to be absolutely sure it was true. But even she never divulged the secret to Bob or any of the McDonalds. It is one of the several identifiable characteristics of melodrama that are plot devices dealing with situations that are highly improbable in real life. Yes, I told Norbert, I think we have the wrong baby. And I said, heavens no. Please check the corresponding audio before quoting in print. Sue looks happy. Of course, the dead time for doing that. They understand why she didn't speak out sooner. And so, of course, he was trying to get me to say that I had forgiven them and. Was there ever a time when you thought back and thought I should have stood my ground more with him on that? Nothing seemed amiss to her. Well, of course, we felt indebted to him for doing that. This is a videotape of that first meeting. The Millers are the bespectacled, dark-haired ones from the letter. The infants were accidentally switched, and went home with the wrong families. And so I kind of made a promise to myself that I would just never go down that road again, that I was just not going to go there. That could be my sister. "Dear Sue, I'm writing you this short note to officially give you my welcome to this Miller family and relationship.". Here's Marty. And I and of course, Marty didn't really call a whole lot. Even if she could somehow convince everyone it was true. At just 20, Rita knew what she was in for. I don't know how I would have survived. The Millers didn't have much money and they might not have been able to afford the health care otherwise. I mean, I knew that were things I couldn't do and. Once things calm down, Sue came to two conclusions one, she wasn't going to become estranged from her mother, and two, it was her brother she might lose. Martha excelled in music, was a great cheerleader at school, very popular, and a blonde. I was just like, wow. In a pretty lighthearted household, she was nervous, studious, serious. She didn't have the Sociales that came so naturally to Bob and Marty. That is why I wanted to write this letter. He wants people to know Jesus Christ and that they would be saved. She turns the groom and handed Bob's older son a present for his baby. Marti says her mom, Mrs. Miller, sees the world in black and white. Well, when your husband said to you, this baby's cute, let's keep it. And part of it what makes this so strange is that this wasn't the sort of thing where Mrs. Miller figured this to her surprise after decades of wondering and pondering and painstaking detective work. I told Mrs. Miller I felt that it was God's will, when she realized that she might not have the right child, I think it was His will that she do something about it. She grew up as the sixth child in a family of seven kids. I didn't get picked. It is the first television show to feature several deaf actors/characters and entire scenes shot using only ASL. Sue knew her mother had never been a big fan of the Millers ever since they met. Text. There were a few years there, where every chance my mother got, she made it perfectly clear that I was a McDonald. And the Millers show her pictures of her other relatives. This American life is delivered to public radio stations by parks. And you can see, they're just having so much fun and laughing together and just dancing away. But there's no question things have gotten better between the two girls and their moms. That wasn't something that they would have done because athletics was really not a value to them at all. His heart was elsewhere. And I said, Who told you to say that? Sometimes my mom thinks I'm a little fanatical. But he had everybody convinced, I think, that it was God's will, but I had talked to several of our former pastors who knew about the situation, and they assured me that this was not God's will. 44:35. But he had everybody convinced, I think, that it was God's will. I think what we do is pretty much our own doing. Why did you listen to her husband back in 1951? Kay and Marti both cried when Marti left the wedding for California. Jakobson story continues in a minute from Chicago Public Radio when our program continues. She wasn't malicious. But in the end, she made the trip, because she's a Miller and so is Sue, and she's a McDonald and so is Sue. Oh, really good for us. Every chance my mother got, she made it. So I left practicing and I was driving. But your father, he's not a doctor. And here I am. Were you afraid of Norburg at all? And the daughter, bear with me, ended up marrying Sue's brother Bob. Transcripts are generated using a combination of speech recognition software and human transcribers, and may contain errors. 10. Her mother ran a disciplined household, everyone had to work, she remembers washing and drying all the dishes. This brings us to Marti, the other baby in this baby switch. Her name is also Sue. It was a different life. And the more I thought about it, the more I realized, you know, I can't think about this, because it'll drive me crazy if I do. And he didn't tell me ahead of time. Her name's also Sue. So we're you know, so then I just forgot about the whole thing. That's sort of spooked Marty, so she left it alone. ", So she's basically saying to you, you may have actually gotten a break here being in the family that--. We're devoting the full hour today to what happened to these two families. "I want you to know that I will accept whatever contact you choose to have with me, even if it's none at all. Mrs. Miller has for 43 years been longing to see her, the child she'd given birth to. She had given birth two years prior, to a girl. One of them was Darlene Wolfgram. If you're just tuning in, Jake Halpern is telling the story this hour of two girls switched at birth. Her mother ran a disciplined household. I don't even know who they are. A couple of them, including Ruth, had vague memories of their parents talking about it after they brought Marty home from the hospital about how this baby looked different from Mrs. Miller's other babies and that maybe this baby had been switched. And Susan always had said to me, Mom, why didn't you have any more children after I was born? And I was in the hallway and Mrs. Miller said to me, Did you ever think that our girls were switched at birth? And she kept it quiet all those years. Ruth sat down in a pew near the front next to faith right before the service began. In the episode, the students at Carlton School for the Deaf protest to keep their school open. I would say that Sue and I were probably not that close for whatever reason. She was 98 years old. And why ruin all that? She worried her mother might reject her. For the longest time, whenever she would write to me, she would include McDonald in my name. I'm gonna join the Buckner team. But that didn't seem so strange. What does she think of me? He was an odd strategy, if you can even call it that. Maybe because some of the Miller girls had suspected that she was their sister for decades and because Mrs. Miller always knew the truth, she was being embraced completely by the Miller clan. On The Road; FAQ; Submissions; Store; Contact Us; Our Other Shows; Follow Us. The one-hour scripted drama is set in the Kansas City metropolitan area, and revolves around two teenagers who were switched at birth and grew up in very different environments: one in the affluent suburb of Mission Hills, Kansas, and the other in working-class East . And he did, in fact, say some hurtful things. Thanks. I've forgiven them, but that doesn't mean that I have forgotten. No, no, no. What are you supposed to be with each other? And she said, Oh, no, no. Incredibly, when Marty was 21 years old, someone actually told her that she might not be a Miller, one of her older sisters, Ruth, came to visit with her husband, Rudy. Before the letter arrived, the facts of Sue's life had seemed pretty orderly. At the hospital in 1951, Kay MacDonald was told that she'd given birth to a nine pound, four ounce baby. I thought that was strange. It's a little late. Encephalitis means inflammation of the brain. this american life switched at birth transcriptwilliamson county sports complex. For one thing, she was the only one who joked around. So let's take them one by one, starting with Sue, Mrs. Miller's baby, who was raised by the McDonald's. It was all pretty straightforward. Katie Leclerc and Adam Hagenbuch in "Switched at Birth.". There was nothing any further. Was there ever a time when you thought back and thought, I should have stood my ground more with him on that? She heard it first from her own mom, who heard it at church. Anyway, here's the story. And he let Marti know that he still loved her. When Switched at Birth premiered in 2011, it was the first TV series of its kind, introducing major characters who not only were deaf but were played by deaf actors, who spoke on the show using. What are you supposed to be with each other? I don't know how I would have survived. You're their kid, you're in their family. And that no one around. Ruth sat down in a Pew near the front next to Faith. . They had dogs and raised angora rabbits. No, I guess I haven't, because I knew. A month after she got the letter, Sue went to see her biological mother and father. I don't care whether my husband objected or not, I. I feel like I should have made it a wrong into a right. And then there was the blondeness and the perkiness and the socializing. The fact is Mrs. Miller longed for Sue for her biological daughter ever since she realized the mistake back in 1951, but it seemed futile trying to convince her husband, Norbert. She was nervous, studious, serious, but it didn't seem so strange in junior high. And so I don't think that was too well received when I mentioned that. Bay grew up in a wealthy family while Daphne, who lost her hearing as a child, was raised by a single mom in a working class neighborhood. On a summer day in 1951, two baby girls were born in a hospital in small-town Wisconsin. Unbelievable Intentional Swap. Dear Sue, I'm writing you this short note to officially give you my welcome to this Miller family and relationship. And then they go right to do that. So at this point, you're probably wondering why in the world didn't Mrs. Miller straighten this out quicker? She figured if she could simply get Kate a look at Marti Caywood figure things out, the evening just ended up being kind of baffling for everyone involved. But, boy, it was really for me. We love you, Martha Jane-- I'm sorry. Do you have a second? Yes, definitely, at that point. He didn't dance with me. She remembers washing and drying all the dishes by the time she was five or six. Did you feel that then after this happened a little bit closer to your dad than your mom? For starters, Mrs. Miller didn't contact Marti and Sue at the same time. rudy's bbq beans recipe yoshiki hayashi gender this american life switched at birth transcript. If you are able, we strongly encourage you to listen to the audio, which includes emotion and emphasis that's not on the page. That's good. They are more like I am. The Millers were at the McDonald's anniversary party, their mutual acquaintances, they got a short drive from each other's houses and Waseca and Kurdish in Wisconsin. Sue knew her mother had never been a big fan of the Millers ever since they met. I I think it's not right to do that, you know. The next week, though, when Marti was visiting their mom, Mrs. Miller, she asked her about what Rudy had said. But I went along with it because. And the other thing was that he really thought, what difference does it make a child is a child. And I said, would you have believed me? In fact, my mother said, well, just don't tell anybody. I'm IRA Glass back next week with more stories. A month and a half later, she wrote the letter. And the family never went on vacation or even to the movies. It was a different way of living, one that she admires. I know that's who's your daughter and no one could ever expect you to feel otherwise. Reverend Miller is affectionate with her, putting his arm around her waist. Yeah. Our other children were very serious. But Sue was the girl they'd brought up and they felt loyal to her, protective. He finally did. Before she found out the truth about who her mother really was, Marti's life wasn't all that different from Sue's. He danced with everyone. I just couldn't do it. It's available wherever you get your podcasts and. I think you know that you will always be our daughter, but I thought each of you should know your biological and spiritual backgrounds. The nurse weighed the baby and must have left her in the delivery room until after Kay's baby was born. Our services run deep and are backed by over ten years of experience. Well, why don't we just ask Mom and Dad about this. They were nice enough when she spoke to them on the phone, but they weren't exactly welcoming her into the family. Wow, wow. That wasn't something that they would have done, because athletics was really not of value to them at all. And things are good with Mrs. Miller to Marty's accepted that despite some of the clumsy things that her mother said and did when she broke the news to her, she meant well. Neither Sue nor Marty blames Mrs. Miller for going along with her husband. In fact, that's true. And my mother's like, what happened to my life? That's Martha reading. Mrs Miller told people in the evangelical church about her suspicions, friends of hers and people she hoped would keep an eye out on Sue. Actually, my mother wanted to go to court and have my name legally changed back to Sue McDonald and have Sue's name changed. And I thought, well, he'll think I'm nuts. She I did feel in the beginning like she was taking my place in my family, and that was odd, very odd, and sometimes I don't know exactly what her relationship is with my sisters. A child is a child. The nurse weighed the baby and must have left her in the delivery room until after Kay's baby was born very soon after mine. She was working for a group of pediatricians, which included a genetic counselor. Is my brother going to care to even see me anymore? One of the toughest things both Marty and Sue have to deal with is logistical. During its run, the show was groundbreaking in that it was one of the first mainstream shows that represented the deaf community and even had deaf actors in the cast. Sue now had four new sisters and two new brothers. A couple of them, including Ruth, had vague memories of their parents talking about it after they brought Marti home from the hospital, about how this baby looked different from Mrs. Miller's other babies, and that maybe this baby had been switched. Jake Halpern, he's the host of the new podcast Deep Cover, about an FBI agent who goes undercover with an outlaw motorcycle gang. I didn't want to have a disagreement like that with him, because that would have ruined our marriage. Mrs. Miller arranged for the McDonalds to come to dinner. Marti worked all of her adult life, and still does, as a nurse. And I was super anxious to meet her in person. She told the counselor her story and said she wanted to get blood tests done. And she kept it quiet all those years. 3.75 avg rating 17,692 ratings. The show ended abruptly after 5 seasons. I was shy or I was whatever. She wanted to be a part of a big family. Well, there was no DNA testing back then or anything else. She's ours now. Mr. McDonald's health didn't allow it. Being in the family I locked out, I lucked out. (26 minutes). All four women said things got very lonely for them. And I said, would you have believed me? And it is a much smaller family, just two kids. She focused on the facts of the situation, maybe hoping she could fix things by simply setting the record straight. And the moment he saw her, he knew that she was his biological daughter. Yes, I did. And yes, Sue is different from the rest of the family in certain ways, dark and tall and skinny and a family that was none of those in a pretty lighthearted household. She's a very busy gal, and I was not having that much communication with her. Things like that. Here's Jake Halpern. I couldn't do anything. She says there's Sue walking down the center aisle. One of them was Darlene Wolfgram. The fact is, Mrs. Miller longed for Sue, for her biological daughter, ever since she realized the mistake back in 1951. Did you have? I just couldn't believe it. Probably the Ladies Aid, maybe, you know, the little group that got together. Did you agree with him immediately or was there a little bit of arguing back and forth over what to do? When your husband said to you, this baby's cute, let's keep it, did you agree with him immediately or was there a little bit of arguing back and forth over what to do? Likely one of the most complicated and crazy switched at birth cases is that of Kimberly Mays and Arlena Twigg who, in 1978, went home from the hospital with the wrong parents. People were definitely aware whenever both women were in the same room. Reporter Jake Halpern tells the story of Marti Miller and Sue McDonald, the daughters who were switched at birth , and the many complications that came with learning the truth. ( 1991-04-28) Switched at Birth is a 1991 American miniseries directed by Waris Hussein. I said, am I adopted? Just got obsessed with it. He did not want her to push me out of the family. So I never will probably understand why. And then she's going to say, well, I don't need that daughter anymore. She was just tired of secrets. Everyone had to work. how long does crab paste last; is gavin hardcastle married; cut myself shaving down there won't stop bleeding Thanks especially to the McDonald and Miller families for letting us into their homes and telling their stories. Mrs. Miller would do or say things concerning the girls, things that just seem strange to Kay. And of course, I was very busy, because I was chairperson and I had so many other things to do. Two teenage girls' lives are turned upside down when they find out they were switched at birth. The Public Radio Exchange. Mrs. Miller's husband, the Reverend Norbert Miller, was an evangelical preacher, devoted to the church. And in the meantime, I had gotten phone calls from people I didn't even know that we're telling me, hey, I'm your brother. The Millers are the bespectacled, dark haired ones from the letter. Shut up. Mr. McDonald ran the TV repair shop in town. One, she wasn't going to become estranged from her mother. This summer, Bob McDonald, younger son, got married in period. Your service title Give us a brief description of the service that you are promoting. And this was a bad decision, but he didn't realize what effect that can make. The Millers wanted to incorporate her family into our family as quickly as they could and. She looks just like Mary. If she still believes she's my sister, that's good. And know you have mixed feelings about this revelation. Yes. But Sue says there are a lot of things she missed out on, too, by not growing up with the Millers. For this assignment, listen to the Prologue, Act 1, and Act 2 of the This American Life episode #360 called Switched at Birth. Like Sue, though, Marty stuck out in her family for one thing, she was the only one who joked around, she says even now, the Millers can't tell when she's being ironic. And I said, heavens, no. It was an odd strategy, if you can even call it that. How did you feel when he said this was God's will? Having two sets of parents and two full sets of siblings and cousins is kind of a practical headache. I didn't even dance with you. Again, Martha Miller, who now goes by Marty, who once was the baby who sneezed five times in a row. They were nice enough when she spoke to them on the phone, but they weren't exactly welcoming her into the family. When Sue got married, for instance, the Millers gave her a trivett Norbert had made the card was signed from your other possible parents. Mr. Miller died in 2000. And she would circle their names and say, these are your parents. I was a crazy woman who thought I had her girl. And when you get this kind of news as an adult, that your mom isn't really your mom or your daughter isn't really your daughter, and at the same time, you have a new mom or a new daughter, it is not so clear what you're supposed to do with this new parent or new child who's now in your life. So she's excited about it. My mother didn't have enough milk for me. But later, the two churches merged. He danced with my mother. But I thought each of you should know your biological and spiritual backgrounds. The other problem for Marty was how to approach the McDonald's for biological parents. And at any point during this time, does it cross your mind? I guess you can't understand. The reason was pretty simple, actually. She wrote that in a letter to Mrs. Miller eight years after she learned the truth. I'm Ira Glass. Then he started asking me what I knew about the McDonalds. It took Kay an awful long time. Part of me really doesn't want to know, because I think I would feel left out of something. One thing Mrs. Miller doesn't regret is raising Marti. Florida Woman Who Was Switched at Birth Opens Up About Her Life Post-Scandal: 'I Couldn't Handle the Resentment' In 1989, Kimberly Mays became a media sensation when genetic tests revealed. And is the reason because Marty brought something important to your family, you cheated. Host Ira Glass introduces four characters: Kay McDonald, who raised a daughter named Sue, and Mary Miller, who raised a daughter named Marti. Oh, yeah. Reporter Jake Halpern tells the story of Marti Miller and Sue McDonald, the daughters who were switched at birth, and the many complications that came with learning the truth. Switched at Birth is about two teen girls and their families . Our other children had dark hair and all needed glasses for nearsightedness. April 28, 1991. And as I the more I thought about it, the more I realized, you know, I can't think about this because it'll drive me crazy if I do. Mr. McDonald had a bad heart and she didn't know what the stress would do to him. And when Bob found out about Marti, found out that she was his biological sister, he called her right away in California. Well, my sisters had this crazy thing going on when they were when Faith was a teenager, she would push the dresser and the cedar chest against the door. Even so, he asked her for forgiveness again and again. And she said, oh, no, no. Dear Martha and Sue, have you ever suspected or been told that we took home the baby that belonged to Kay and Bob McDonald and they later took home the baby that belonged to us? Hi, everybody, it's IRA Glass, and for this American Life's 25th anniversary, we are putting eight favorite episodes from over the years into our regular podcast Feed. I talked to Norbert about it, but he did not want to disgrace our good doctor Deathlok. this american life switched at birth transcript. I was just not ever meeting their expectation of intellectual ism, and my mother has told me since then, you know, you I really didn't expect that much from you because I knew that you weren't our child. She didn't grow up with Sue, after all, and she's not actually related to her or to her kids. Again, here's Jake Halpern. She'd also moved out of Wisconsin, in her case to Southern California. And there were a lot of kids too. Weeks went by and Sue began to fret. You know, to run a big radio station was not always the dream job that he wanted. When Kay's church was celebrating its 150 year anniversary, for instance, Kay was chairperson for the event. In fact, we weren't even sure we'd have another child. Well, no, I wasn't afraid of him. I only had one daughter and she had five daughters. I honestly don't know how much they communicate, how much they're in touch. Reverend Miller is affectionate with her putting his arm around her waist. Yes. It's this American Life. this american life switched at birth transcript. It's for your child. And quoting scriptures all the time for me to read to console me, because I had said that I had I had shed a lot of tears and and I had probably all of the emotions that you have with death in a family. Jake is a writer of several books and creator of the comic, "Welcome to the New World. (26minutes), Jake Halpern tells the mothers' sides of the story. But boy, it was a relief for me. 754. Hey, I was switched at birth with you. And of course, Marti didn't really call a whole lot. And, uh. And and of course, I was very busy because I was chairperson and I had so many other things to do. There's a large statue of an angel in her sitting room, which she's planning to put on her own grave. He did not want her to push me out of the family. And angry that now the Millers were asking so much of Sue's time and attention. Switched at Birth. Archive; Recommended; How to Listen; . So then she found out she had all of these, um, brothers and sisters and the phone calls were fewer. This is Sue reading a letter she got some time ago from her newfound Miller sister, Faith. And we hope you flourished in the McDonald household. I had my own room. I love you both. Ashin Sheen. With every phone call that we made, we opened up more to each other. She always referred to the girls as sisters. And I felt excluded. And this whole crop of people knew, but never said anything to Kay McDonald. And she told somebody that I was crazy. Reverend Miller had made many visits to Dr. Dislocates wife when she was sick, and now Dr. Deathlok refused to charge the Millers for anything. But even if it did happen, there is no way to prove it. But Norbert should have gone back and said, this isn't our baby. And, you know, I'm reading this thing going, What do you mean these are my this is my uncle. Kay McDonald is still tight with Sue, the daughter she raised, but she's also much closer with Marty. And I didn't want it ruined. And until that time, we just talked all the time. She would push the dresser and the cedar chest against the door. He told her that he thought it was God's will that this had happened. That's how Mrs. Miller kept track of Sue. Rita Hynes lugged her pregnant body up the rural hospital's wooden steps. And I said, who told you to say that? In fact, when I would go down and have any touch with the McDonalds-- we got introduced to them-- I tried to talk to her about it. Mrs. Miller told people in the Evangelical Church that her suspicions, friends of hers and people she hoped would keep an eye out on Sue.

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